REFERENCE feature in SCALE and ROTATE



Author Erhan Toker
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For those who use ROTATE and SCALE commands, I will explain a very important feature that exists in these commands. By using this feature, it will be possible to bring an entity to a specified angle, or to bring a line, which has unknown length, to a specified length. This feature is called REFERENCE. Now, let’s briefly explain this feature:

Fig.1
Fig. 1.

Let’s start with drawing the line with a length of approximately 398.55 and an inclination of 32 degrees. Draw roughly. We are already trying to put in order a roughly prepared drawing. Let’s try both of the commands on this line. First of all, let’s make the length of the line 500 by SCALE command;

Command : SCALE
Select objects:
( select the line )
Specify base point: ( select the lower left corner of the line )
Specify scale factor or [ Copy/ Reference]: R ( Here, we are selecting REFERENCE with R)
Specify the reference length : (At this point, let’s select the both ends of the line and determine its length )
Specify the new length or [Points]: 500 ( press ENTER)

If you measure by DISTANCE command, you will see that the length is exactly 500 units. Here the important part is to show the two end points of the line while entering the reference length. ROTATE command also works in the same manner. Only difference is that, in this command reference angle is required, not he reference length. At this point, it is important to choose which end of the line first. The reason is that, if you change the selection points one for another, reference angle will change by 180 degrees.

Command : ROTATE
Select objects:
(select the line)
Specify base point: ( select the lower left corner of the line )
Specify rotation angle or [ Copy/ Reference] <0>: R (Here, we are selecting REFERENCE with R)
Specify the reference angle : (At this point, let’s select the both ends of the line and determine its angle )
Specify the new angle or [Points]: 0 ( press ENTER )

Fig.2
Fig. 2.

While selecting the point to show the reference angle, the important point is that first selected point must be the same as the BASE POINT. By this way, cursor is locked on the entity to be rotated (Fig. 2).

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8 Responses to “REFERENCE feature in SCALE and ROTATE

  • 1
    Robin Capper
    December 20th, 2006 12:16

    Also, check out the ALIGN command which can combine ROTATE, Reference and SCALE in one operation.

  • 2
    Daily Autocad » Blog Archive
    June 15th, 2007 08:34

    […] reference value as a scaling factor. This option was explained by Erhan in detail in his article “REFERENCE feature in SCALE and ROTATE”. You can check out this article and learn about this option in […]

  • 3
    abdulelah
    July 5th, 2007 19:21

    How to rmove 3d wireframe after render and textture,
    it’s stay.
    thank’s.

  • 4
    Syd Derbyshire
    July 24th, 2007 18:48

    Could you tell me when the POINTS option became available in the SCALE - REFERENCE. I think it was in 2004. Back in 1996 I created a program which made a call to the SCALE command and allowed picked points to be passed to the final input, which then would only accept a value. I cannot remember when the new option was introduced.

  • 5
    Erhan Toker
    July 25th, 2007 08:26

    Hello Syd,
    I’m not sure when POINTS option included into REFERENCE option. But, selecting two points is one of the data input methods for AutoCAD editor window for long long long :-) time. I think POINTS option has extended this input feature.

  • 6
    Syd Derbyshire
    July 25th, 2007 14:27

    Hello Erhan
    Thank you for replying. Yes selection of points is available for many command options, even prior to its inclusion within the SCALE - REFERENCE. However I often wonder why the people at Autodesk sell us short with certain features, some of which are available in the LT versions of the same release-date package. It has taken until 2008 to include the graphics Orbit feature using SHIFT+Middle Wheel Press.
    I wanted to settle an argument for the release date of the POINTS option.

  • 7
    Erhan Toker
    July 25th, 2007 14:44

    Ok Syd,
    I will try to ask it AutoDESK.
    By the way, the tips you mentioned are very interesting and very helpful. Do you wan’t to write such tips or other articles in our site?
    Thanks for the tips.

  • 8
    vikas y tawade
    November 19th, 2007 09:58

    sir,

    which command i.e. when detail is small , after then detail is enlarged view , detail scale will change , i want to scale in 1:1 scale

    v.y.tawade

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