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Jan 27
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Autocad, Basics
Understanding Coordinate Input in AutoCAD

Hello Daily AutoCAD readers,

Those who have just started working with AutoCAD should first learn about the coordinate system of AutoCAD. When you first open AutoCAD, you see Model Space on your screen and you make your drawing in this space. You can think of the model space as a 3 dimensional paper space. Indeed, if you are going to draw something 2 dimensional and you are looking at the model from top view, then you can think of it as paper directly. Only difference between paper is that model space has no boundaries. If we remember the old days, we used to make a preliminary preparation to align the drawing in the middle of the paper by adjusting the scale also. In AutoCAD, you don’t have to worry about scaling or aligning the drawing in the middle of the paper. You can read my article “Understanding scale concept and units in Autocad” where I have explained these concepts in detail.When you first start drawing in model space in AutoCAD, probably you will mostly encounter with the problem of entering points. AutoCAD will prompt you to enter a point a strating point of a line, corner of a rectangle etc. In this article, I will explain “how to enter a point” as well as the coordinate system.

In how many different ways can we enter a point?

Answer of this question is 3. When you first step into the world of drawing with AutoCAD, for instance when you use LINE command, AutoCAD will ask you to enter a starting point first.

Command: LINE
From point:

Here are the answers that you can give to this “From point:” question:

  • By entering real coordinates.
  • By entering relative coordinates.
  • By entering coordinates by using AutoCAD drawing aid tools.

Now, let’s make our first step into drawing and learn about coordinate system by going over these topics.

1. Entering absolute coordinates

Command: LINE
From point: -2,1
To Point : 3,4
To point :

Fig.1
Fig.1

In the example given above, we drew the line shown in Fig. 1. We gave the point information that is asked by AutoCAD by entering real coordinates in form of x,y. Let’s continue to convert it into a triangle.

Command: LINE
From point: 3,4
To Point : 3,1
To point : -2,1
To point :

As you can see, it very laborious and time consuming to make drawing by this way. Of course, AutoCAD is equipped with many point entering methods to make drawing work faster and more practical. In this part, we entered cartesian coordinates. Now, let’s draw the same triangle by using more advanced methods.

2. Entering relative coordinates:

Entering relative coordinates is entering another point as referenced to another point as it can be understood from its name. There are various methods in AutoCAD that can be used to enter relative coordinates. Let’s make the previous example by using relative coordinates. Let’s draw the same triangle by starting from -2,1 point, going 5 units in right direction and 3 units in upper direction and end in same -2,1 point.

Command: LINE
From point: -2,1
To Point : @5,0
To point : @0,3
To point : c

Fig.2
Fig.2

As you can see, entering relative coordinates is done by using @ symbol from the last point and entering Δx,Δy values. @ means that we will enter relative coordinates.

3. Polar Coordinates:

Other that cartesian (x,y) coordinates, another coordinate system that you can use to enter points is POLAR coordinates system. It is a coordinate that is reached by a distance and an angle from a certain origin point. We know that angles increase in counter clockwise direction in AutoCAD ( Fig. 3).

Fig.3
Fig.3

After reminding this information, let’s continue to know more about POLAR coordinates. The example given in Fig. 4 explains how to enter polar coordinates by using relative coordinates.

Command:_LINE
From point: #0,0
To point: #4<120
To point: #5<30

Fig.4
Fig.4

Even though we are not at the topic of relative coordinates, this example is given in order not to skip entering absolute polar coordinates. # symbol at the beginning is used to mention the absolute coordinate entry. Now, let me give an example for entering relative polar coordinates.


Fig.5

Let’s go over the previous example:

Command:_LINE
From point: @3<45
To point: @5<285

As you can see, by entering @ symbol, you are saying “relative to last point”. @3<45 expression means 3 units at 45 degrees relative to the last point, then we move 5 units with 75 degrees by using @5<285 expression. You can also draw yourself a square by starting from any point.

Command:_LINE
From point:
From point: @5<0
From point: @5<90
From point: @5<180
From point: c

As you can see, entering relative coordinates is very useful to use. Thus, it is the method that is most frequently used. However, relative Cartesians mat also be used for very rare subjects like drawing a rectangle.

Command:_RECTANG
First corner:
Other corner: @5,3

This example draws a rectangle with dimensions 5×3.

3. Entering coordinates by using AutoCAD drawing aid (dynamic) tools:

If you select a point on the screen by using you mouse cursor, then you cannot enter and exact coordinate. Of course, it would be better if we could have entered the exact coordinate that we wanted just by using the mouse cursor. Since AutoCAD 2000, entering coordinates by using mouse cursor has been improved. And in final versions AutoCAD 2006 and 2007, this has been improved even better. This is called dynamic coordinate entry in AutoCAD. Now, let’s take a look the subject by giving some examples:

Angle by cursor, but distance is dynamic

Fig.6
Fig.6

As you move your cursor and approach to angles that are defined in POLAR settings, then you will see that your cursor is locked on that angle. As the cursor is locked, then we can move as much as we want that along the angle we are locked onto.

Angle locked, distance is dynamic


Fig.7

After selecting the first point to draw a line, if you write <45 and press ENTER, then you lock the cursor on 45 degrees. You can enter distance either by your hand or again by using cursor.

Distance locked, but angle is dynamic:


Fig.8

When we write 200<, then distance will be locked at 200 units and you will be prompted to enter an angle value. Lock is broken at angles specified at POLAR settings.

In future, I will give a second lesson about this subject. That’s all for now about coordinate entries. I hope it will be useful for you.

Have a nice day…

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29 Responses to “ Understanding Coordinate Input in AutoCAD ”
  1. Cool…great tips!

  2. Thank you very much. I appreciate the useful hints.

    I am following the very simple explanation from you.

    Of practical difficulites are still with me because Iam just trying to understand the concepts of autocad.

    I opened the window picked up a line command, clicked on the drawing area, entered 0,0 to get the point of origin, oops! the line is pulling downward to the left hand corner of the window. It is not making a staight line or a point where I want it to start

    I will try again

    Thanks for the lucid explanatoins

    Cherian

  3. Mike Browning

    Aug 29, 2007
    Reply

    Can Autocad display actual “dimensions” as coordinates?

    ie. 5.25″, 2.10————-

    where 5.25″ is x dimension, and 2.10″ is y dim.

  4. Hi, I have problem to displaying the coordinates E and N. Is there a way to display both by clicking at the same time?
    Thanks

  5. Mike
    This isn’t a CORE component of AutoCAD. You can get around this by doing the following:
    1) Draw a Point (use POINT on the command line).
    2) Use the FIELD command.
    3) Select “Object” from the first list.
    4) Select the “select object” icon
    5) Select the point. Then select “position” from the second pull down. Now click ok and select where you’d like your coordinate to appear.
    Note that if you move the point then the coordinate text automatically updates to reflect the new position.

    3D CAD Fittings: http://www.herculedesign.com

  6. Hannah
    See my post above only before clicking OK go to “Click Additional Format”. Here you can enter a prefix, suffix etc etc.

    3D CAD Fittings: http://www.herculedesign.com

  7. Entering a prefix of * allows a user who has a non-WCS to enter absolute WCS coordinates at any time.

  8. Thanks for tip tracy.

  9. (I wonder why the question i asked dispears….. so i ask again… )
    Hi, for a coordinates, say (2,0), does that mean the line is 2 DWG units to the right?

  10. 2,0 means x value = 2, Y value =0. But if you use @ char front of 2,0 (e.g. @2,0 ) means 2 dwg unit right.

  11. kevin barton

    Nov 16, 2007
    Reply

    okay – absolute and ralative co-ordinates are fine, but why won’t autocad let you use relative anges, only absolute?
    If I’ve drawn a polyline segment at an angle that I don’t know, why can’t I type @<43 to lock me into 43degrees relative to the last line segment.
    Of course, if I was doing lots of 43degree relative angles, i could set it in polar tracking (F10) and select the relative angle option, but for the occasional known angle, it would be very handly and seems so obvious I can’t believe there’s not a way.
    what did people do before polar tracking? laboriously construct it.

  12. Dear sir,
    Presently I’m working with Lafarge South Africa Cement Plant, Lichtenburg. Basically I’m a mechanical engineer. I’m very much interested to learn Auto CAD drawing. Latter on I’m planning to set up my own business in the area of auto cad drawing and design.
    I read your articles on auto cad. These are very much interesting. I’m very much impressed. I’ll continue reading and learning through your articles. Since I’m a beginner, I don’t have any comments to mention.
    Please advise me the way to move ahead for setting up my own business.
    Rest in the next mail.
    With kind regards,
    Yadav Mandeo

  13. I’ve done lots of manual drafting. But converting from boardwork to the computer has been very challenging. I understand the coordinates I think, but my lines don’t seem to end up where I would like them to.

  14. I have one excel file of 13,000 xy coordinate.. I want to draw 25dia circle at each poit. can you suggest me how??

  15. I am having 650 points in 3D. i need to display the x,y,z of all the points. using “FIELD” option i have to select every point individually to display their x,y,z.is there any other option to select them all at a time and display their x,y,z?
    again, if i am having a large nos of digits arranged in column or row form in the Autocad drawing, is there any option so that i can directly copy them and paste them in the excel so that every digit is placed in individula cell in the excel?

  16. Orhan bey iyi gunler 3 boyutlu çizimde komut satırına 2 açı ve uzunluk vererek çizgi çizdirebiliyor muyuz? 2 boyuttaki @200<30 gibi mesela. 2 gundur arıyorum ancak hala bulamadım yardım edebilirseniz sevinirim.

    (Belki özlem giderirsiniz diye Türkçe yazdım:))

  17. Merhaba Utku,

    Elbette iki açı ve bir uzunluk verebilirsiniz. Buna küresel koordinat girişi deniyor. Verdiğiniz 1. açı XY düzleminde 2. açı XZ düzlemindedir. Kullanılışı;

    @30<45<100 dür.

    Sevgiler,

  18. hello!sir.
    i have problem to draw a cordinate drawing in auto cad.i m working in international company in U.A.E.i m auto cad draftsman.but i don’t know how to draw cordinates drawing.i already read your 1st lecture.but what about next lession???please give me an information about your 2nd lession.
    sir, also i would like to know about autocad drawing.and put cordinates in ready autocad drawing.please give me some suggetion.

  19. how can i use node points for creating lines

  20. If you have node points already, you can use line command with NODE osnap.

  21. Dear Sir
    I am a Civil Engineer working in UK.I have a problem with auto cad. I prepared the drawing in model space in coordinate system. then I opened a layout and set up the drawing for print when I come back model space again my drawing is out of my coordinate system which is in different coordinate system.Could you explain the reson.
    Thanks
    Kamal

  22. Hello Kamal,

    Probably you are moving your model in modelview window. Please use only zoom and pan commands in modelview windows.

    Regards

  23. Hi ,

    I am shivan working in water feature project in UAE .. please guide me how to show co-ordination point in darwing … currently iam using from dimesnion tool Ordinate command… but this is not suffciient to use this becaz i need both suh as North and east point ..

    please mail me

    by
    shivan

  24. yes i want the same thing plz as shivan said

  25. i thank all of u for this

  26. How can I change excel xyz coordinate data to insert in autocad

  27. Hallo, very nice explanations. Do anyone knows what are the maximum phyisical coordinate values in acad units that can be applyed and that autocad can handle, i understand that there is no border in the model space but there must be some limitations due to system number-handling capabilities.  Then regarding the precission, on 32 bit and 64 bit systems respectively. Any answer would be appreciated. 

  28. gr8 work ..

  29. hi
    i am asking for method to draw multi point from garmine gps (as example) in one go way
    thanks


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